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Frank Kuma's avatar

Trump's tariffs on Canadian aluminum was the biggest own goal, shoot yourself in the foot, total screw up that didn't make any sense for the USA from day one. Aluminum production takes a huge amount of electricity to make that Canada has in abundance at a cheap cost. The USA is sadly lacking in electrical generation. There used to be 2 dozen or so aluminum smelters in the US and they all closed as they couldn't compete with Canadian and other foreign producers. Now, American users of aluminum are coming hat in hand trying to buy whatever they can get their hands on, at a price demanded by Canada, with the added bonus of a 50% tariff for good measure. What has also helped Canada increase their exports to Europe was another Trump own goal: the Iranian war. That has caused havoc with all of the aluminum producers in the middle east. European users of aluminum could no longer get a reliable supply from the middle east and were able to quickly pivot to Canada as a reliable supplier. For Canadian aluminum producers, Europe should be a huge long term gain.

Fred Ferguson (GeezerWise)'s avatar

Frank, that's the part that makes this such a spectacular own goal.

Canada didn't suddenly become good at producing aluminum... we've had the hydroelectric power and smelting capacity all along.

Trump simply gave us a very good reason to stop treating the U.S. as the automatic customer.

And Europe discovering Canada as a reliable long-term supplier may turn out to be the part Washington regrets most.

Once you've helped your supplier find better customers, removing the tariff doesn't necessarily bring them back.

John Milsom's avatar

Of course trump is a tremendously morally flawed character but I also honestly think he just has not got the mental capacity to see the big picture.

Everything he does is a knee jerk reaction to a situation that really needs analysis and understanding. I can see how this may be attractive to some people ,But these reactions of course are not solutions . There is just no depth to the man or his decisions. Sadly the consequences for the USA will be far far reaching and have consequences well beyond his reign.

One Canadians Perspective's avatar

No one can say it's not a self inflicted wound to the US and after all that has been said and done Canada has zero obligation to treat the US as a preferred customer. I wouldn't be sad if no Canadian aluminum ever crossed into the US or if it did, it should have an export tariff on it. If America wants to pay more for the things it needs we should be good neighbours and help them pay more!

Susan J 🗽⚖️💪's avatar

Of course he doesn’t have the mental capacity, he has no morals, narcissists don’t see anything but themselves ! And he was able to get elected because roughly a third of Americans are undereducated, morally deficient, mentally challenged, racists. Another third don’t appreciate their freedoms, they don’t understand that those freedoms and the privilege of being able to vote was bought with blood, they don’t understand that citizenship and those freedoms come with great responsibility, they were too lazy to roll out of their pillow-topped mattresses to go vote and their hubris led to the election of an obviously corrupt, misogynistic, narcissistic, racist. Even after this demented, tempestuous toddler instigated an assault on our democratic system, assaulted our dedicated protectors, and caused millions of dollars worth of damage, that we the tax payers had to bear, there were imbeciles that said, “please, sir, may we have another !” This is not the America I was taught to believe in, taught to be proud of, feed the lie that “no one is above the law”. I have lived through the assassination of a president, the assassinations of political candidates, of civil rights leaders, anti-war riots, race riots, the atrocity of My Lai, National Guard troops killing students, the desperate evacuation of Saigon, the bombings of the Liberty, the Cole, Beirut, 9/11; all of these tragedies were events, but they were not the deliberate and chosen destruction of our democracy. Maybe we deserve the misery, fellow U.S. citizens brought this on us, but this demented toddler, this malignant cancer - enabled by the weak sycophants we call Congress and SCOTUS - but our failure has caused the whole globe to suffer ‼️This tempestuous toddler is a malleable idiot used by his brothers from different mothers (Putin and Netanyahu) has overturned the whole game board because he isn’t winning everything he wants. He never will because everything will never be enough for him 🤬

Mostly Harmless Cat Lady's avatar

But the Rotten Yam said America doesn’t need anything from Canada. Oops!

The most important part of the story, I think, is that the Europeans completed a purchase and delivery. Next time will be easier. Now, if we could grow our own smelting industry owned by Canadian companies. We gotta stop thinking of ourselves as the unprocessed material provider and get to the finished goods.

Elmo St James's avatar

People! He’s destroying your economy - oh well ho hum

Frank Kuma's avatar

Yeah, we're all aware that that is his intention. Canadians will fight the Orange Rapist Felon, there's no quit in us. No amount of pain will get us to become his vassal state.

djw's avatar

I love seeing that buyers are looking for sellers from clean-energy countries because Shitler hates clean energy. I'm American and I hate what this will do to costs I have to pay, but if the rest of the world can make the mango Mousseline squirm, I'm down with that!

Fred Ferguson (GeezerWise)'s avatar

That's the irony, djw.

Clean energy isn't just an environmental issue anymore... it's becoming a competitive advantage.

Canada's hydro-powered aluminum suddenly looks mighty attractive to countries trying to clean up their supply chains.

I hate that ordinary Americans get stuck paying for these tariff games.

You didn't impose the tariff, but somehow you're the one standing at the cash register when the bill arrives.

djw's avatar

I'm also in California, which would be building even more renewable energy if it weren't for the pus sac's policies. I grew up in Texas, and I love the irony that the only reason Texas can keep the air conditioners going is that it got way into wind energy over the past couple of decades--which really has to chap his highness's heinie!

Jean Frank's avatar

And that's always the most amusing thing. When the grid went down in winter one year (and good old Teddy Scruz decided to take a vacation in Cancun to deal with it but did leave their dog to deal with it, however, how nice!) the only thing still up and generating electricity were the wind turbines! Because apparently they're not much affected by the weather. Imagine that!

djw's avatar

Yep, I was in Texas when that happened, and those of us who vote blue were *not* happy with him then--not to say that we ever were. I don't know if his MAGAt supporters even knew what he did--I feel certain Faux Nois didn't tell them.

Michelle H's avatar

It doesn’t appear that international economics was Mr Trump’s strong suit.

Fred Ferguson (GeezerWise)'s avatar

Michelle, I'm beginning to suspect international economics wasn't even an elective. 😂

The strange part is watching a policy designed to punish Canada help us find new customers while American companies pay more.

That's one hell of a business plan.

Michelle H's avatar

One wonders how often Trump showed up for class. My friends in finance have a running bet going.

Peter's avatar

Does anyone have “twice”?

Michelle H's avatar

Actually the majority say he never attended. Paid someone to take the tests is the majority response.

Jean Frank's avatar

AND he's always said he graduated at the top of his class! But refuses to show us his grades! One of his classmates had the breakdown on each individual's standing in tRUMP'S graduating class and tRUMP was WAY at the bottom of the pack! If he'd actually had graduated with good standing he MUGHT have had a chance at applying for Wharton's Master's in Business program for which Wharton is most noted and famous for. And NOT their undergrad program. So everytime he spouts off about how HE graduated from Wharton, it was NOT for their infamous Master's in Business program where you HAVE to have top grades to even apply for it and the fact you got an undergrad degree there means little. UNLESS you WERE actually at the top of your class! My guess is that Wharton had had its fill of tRUMP and graduated his fucking ass OUT of their college and absolutely NO amount of money from BIG DADDY could persuade them to change their minds. Can't say as I blame them.

Peter's avatar

I think Colbert got a copy of Dotard’s IQ test from university and he was in the mid to high 70s. Stable my ass, genius no way.

Tracy Carr's avatar

Lies deceit and molestation are his only strong points !

Jean Frank's avatar

Is ANYTHING his strong suit aside from cheating people outta their money?!

Josee's avatar

Let’s give credit where credit is due.

Maple Maga behave and govern like America is king.

PMJT saw the reality of Projext 2025 and got the ball rolling on trade diversification years ago…. I am still shaking my head the hate his team got for travelling the globe.

Frank Kuma's avatar

JT got the hate he deserved for being a virtue signaling phoney. His "budgets will balance themselves" view of managing Canada's finances also made him look like a fool. For him it was all "flash" and no "substance".

Shelagh Corless's avatar

Absolutely! Trudeau spent a lot of time laying some of the ground work around the world and no notices it or gives him credit.

Aocm🇨🇦🇺🇦🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️'s avatar

Here’s the best part: “It’s among the lowest-carbon aluminum in the world.”

USA corporate profits trump low carbon anything, deregulation = bigger profits. Europe doesn’t want that shit

Jean Frank's avatar

tRUMP’S a fucking narcissist. He doesn't bargain in good faith. He tries to bully people. The best thing is just to call him on it. Just like taco Tuesday tRUMP always backs down because he operates like he's got something going when he's got nothing. Because he never does! Good on Canada. WE may end up paying more in the long run but it sure is fun watching other countries laugh in his face and tell him he's nothing but a stupid asshole. He's always been one and he'll always be one. Only difference now is he's a delusional dementia ridden asshole.

STG's avatar

With far too many enablers getting rich on his criminality.

Sheila Wilson Moodie's avatar

And it is fun….pass the popcorn please!!

Jean Frank's avatar

Well, if not for all the humorous bantering, I don't know how we'd all get through it otherwise. But I don't have good thoughts about the general state of affairs we are encountering. It's truly sad what we've lost but maybe a few more folks are starting to get the picture. Like tRUMP and Elon's idea to change social security into being a government “benefit” the federal government is saying they're “gifting” it to us. Uh, no, that's money WE paid in each month, month after month as we worked our jobs. It's OUR money that, by the way, they're getting interest on for themselves and ain't none of that they're gonna share with us!. But to have the gall to tell us this is some kind of “gift” is ridiculous. BUT the ultimate plan is having total control over that money and if they've perceived that you've wronged the government somehow. Guess what they're gonna do with that “gift”? You got it! It's gone…….. and ain't never coming back, Jack! And that's EXACTLY how they will try to control us. Instead of everyone having the ability to cash out their checks? It will go to the government and the government will be doling it out. And if you don't behave you get no money! And I'm not even talking protesting here. If you do much as look at them sudeways, you can lose your monthly allotment. Because if they've determined you've been bad and waving signs at ICE agents or you've been caught in public impersonating a penis while protesting you no longer deserve your pay!. Now that one WAS a hoot and got dismissed immediately and the cop said he made the charge and took her in because he was afraid it might “traumatize” and cause his kids “mental anguish” if they saw it! Get real! I'll wager your kids know more about sex than you do. And seen more than their fair share of penises by now!

It's called the internet freeway and I can guarantee you your kids know how to pop off or bypass all the deterants and things you have to control their screen time. They're not stupid, they are industrious creatures when they wanna be and they may have already discovered even more porno sites than you and I can find! And that's why it doesn't matter whether you ban books because there's always the internet right at their fingertips.

PS My orher favorite is the ICE agent who tried to take the extremely dangerous sub sandwich unabomber to court. I'm guessing probably because the mustard on the front of his flack jacket apparently didn't match with the dress code, maybe? And the judge laughed that one out of court as well. But they DO keep trying, don't they?!

And, to all you Pedopublucans out there calling the Democrats communists? You NEED to do a deeper dive, folks, because if the government under tRUMP somehow succeeds in having ALL money distributed only by the government? That is what a communistic empire does. THEY decide what you get and don't get and you WORK for THEM and not yourself. THEY will tell you what your job will be, what schools you can go to and what you will learn there. And if you wanna become a doctor and they've decided they don't need more doctors you'll become an RN or LPN or a nurses aid or even sorting garbage at a dump. They won't care. You'll do as they tell you or you are screwed. And you know, I've been around since JFK and I don't remember ANY US president who was a Democrat advocating a communistic government. I won't say that they were right a 100% of the time but none of us is perfect and can not always predict what happens tomorrow, let alone weeks, months and years in the future. We can make educated guesses but until we get there we're not always gonna know. But one thing I DO know about the Democratic presidents we've known through the last 50 years? None of them bypassed the Constitution for their own benefit while Americans are starving and can't afford medical care or even homes. And removing illegal immigrants hasn't changed that dynamic at all. And it never will because it's a full on hoax simply used to stoke people’s anger with one lie after another to keep the ongoing chaos in full swing while tRUMP and his billionaire bank rollers quietly steal us blind. Or maybe not so quietly.

MICHAEL'S CURIOUS WORLD's avatar

Rio Tinto and Alcoa are Australian multinationals.

Trump has tariffed Aussie steel and aluminium to 50%.

Oz has also responded by finding new markets.

Tomago aluminium smelter, our largest, is shifting to Snowy Hydro electricity in a $2 deal, and is spending $1.1b on new equipment.

The world is walking away from America.

Hannoshobazz NEOLMECH's avatar

Nice move Canada !!!🙏🏾

Dian Mahaffey's avatar

Most Canadians are smarter than Drumpf’s entire cabinet

Pamela Brightman's avatar

After the way he has treated Canada, I say Good for Canada! Dump Trump! Hit him where it hurts!

Faye R's avatar

Who knew that tariffing your allies would backfire bigly!!!

Dean A's avatar

tRump is an idiot who knows nothing beyond grifting and trying to sound like an expert on everything. Look at his long list of failures both personal and in office. Way past time to take the keys away before more damage is done

Jean Frank's avatar

Jimmy Kimmel did a good monologue on tRUMP and how many times he's said he's a "stable genius" and that he knows more than the generals, the doctors, the judges, his lawyers, the researchers, teachers and professors, economists and, yes, even the blue collar construction workers! Now when has he ever worked in any of those rolls?

How did he become "educated" enough about these other jobs? What college degrees does he possess and what was his major and what was his grade point average? Those were details he'd never divulge and only says he "was nearly at the top of the class" (he wasn't, he was in the bottom half of the students graduating that year as one of his former college mates provided the school's annual for that year which proves it!) And, yes, he went to Wharton but he only got his undergrad degree and it's Wharton's Masters in Business program that Wharton is known for. But Wharton was ready to graduate his ass out the door with his undergrad degree. Besides he didn't have the grade point average even to be remotely considered for their Masters program. And Big Daddy couldn't buy him a place in the Master's program either. So they had to come up with Plan B because he was still draft eligible as the Viet Nam was raged on. Plan B- that gives me a giggle! Anyway, Big Daddy got a doctor who rented space in one of his buildings to give him a doctored X-ray showing he had planter fascitis. Which, of course, tRUMP didn't have. BUT it worked! tRUMP never had to worry about serving anymore! Leave that to the stupid grunts who were either drafted or went in voluntarily.

Anyway, Jimmy showed clip after clip bragging time and again, about how much smarter than, well, everyone else he was.

Then Jimmy proceeded to show another montage of clips where he's being asked directly questions in all these various subjects that he's so well read on. And his answer to them all? Every. Single . Question. Was, you guessed it! "I don't know." Every single damn time it was, "I don't know."

It was equal parts hilarious and very sad at the same time! He's told us time and again that he's a "stable genius" and that he knows stuff better than all the folks who were well educated with many degrees and plaques awarded them and decades of experience behind them. Yet, when push came to shove, he couldn't deliver the goods. And worse, he doesn't give a rat's ass. Which is also par for tRUMP, and I won't even go into his psychological makeup because that's been given by many with more experience than I, but let's just say it's not a good one.

Jimmy's little monologue was exactly what he wanted it to be. The perfect eye opening look about just how much tRUMP really DOES knows about anyone subject. And all questions asked were tied to his job as president and he still didn't have answers about how the government along with the rest of the world works. He couldn't come up with one answer except, "I don't know!" Kinda like when he pled the 5th 400+times during deposition for his business fraud case. If he doesn't have an answer for any of it, then what the hell is he doing in Oval Office?!!

But we already know what he does in the Oval Office. He gets his ego stroked by a bunch of imbeciles much like himself then he takes a nap. Then lunch and then it's executive time with FOX snooze followed by a 2nd nap. Then din din of Micky Ds or KFC. Then bed? Hell no! It's time to beat his chest on social media all fucking night long. And his weekends? Golf till you puke! This is what we pay him for.

Oh, and his demands are endless, a fucking bullet proof ballroom because the Iranians are looking to take him out just because tRUMP needed an excuse to have the Epstein file ditched. A huge arch bigger than other buildings with his name emblazoned in large gold letters across it and the lust goes on and on. It never stops with him. He HAS to own everyone!

He started the war in Iran with little thought about any of the demands that come with an extended war that HE caused in the first place! And in the second, he has absolutely no exit strategy and sailors on the Abraham Lincoln ship attempted a mutiny recently that cost 7 lives because of it. It's because they've run short of everything like food, detergent for clothes washing and soap and deodorant, cleaning supplies -you name it, they are either really low or it's non existsnt, medicine and even fuel. And they are a sitting duck because they can't leave because they'd have to go through the Strait and Iran has it closed right now.

So, I wait with bated breath to see what his next catastrophe will be and who will lose because of it. And I'm sure he'll be coming out with some new "Little Shop of Horrors" bullshit to dish out. He's never failed us thus far in that category.

Dean's avatar

Fuck trump and his redneck supporters

William L. Neville's avatar

Trump is playing checkers. Carney is playing chess.

Alexis 🇨🇦's avatar

I don’t think he’s even playing chess. I think he’s playing GO.

It’s a very difficult game to master even more so than chess, and the goal is not to win, the goal is to surround your competitor to the point where they can’t move in any direction except the ones you want them to go.

Frank Kuma's avatar

It has been stated that Mark Carney achieves the "Level 8 Mind", the highest rating of the Elliott Jacques cognitive stratification model. Essentially he has the foresight to see events up to 50 years in the future.

Carney himself stated that he has a plan and counter measure for whatever moves Trump and Greer throws at him in the ongoing tariff negotiations. Regardless of what the USA throws at us, I have confidence that Carney will do what's best for Canada and the Canadian people.

EarAche - Eric J's avatar

This backfire and many others will be the tRumPeon’s legacy.

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