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lorna's avatar

Interesting breakdown of how the votes were cast.

Of concern, given how important it is at this very time that we have a stable government is the small % of eligible voters who actually voted. Low 30% in the Toronto ridings.

Another point that comes to mind when I hear the negative comments that the Liberals only have a majority because of floor crossers. According to various polls, and reflective of how votes were cast on April 13, IF there was an election today the Liberals would win a much stronger majority. I am grateful for the fact that PM Carney is not taking us through a self serving, opportunistic, Doug Ford style election.

Fred Ferguson (GeezerWise)'s avatar

Lorna, you’re hitting on the part most people skip over... turnout.

When only ~30% show up, the conversation shifts from “who won” to “who bothered to vote.” That’s a different kind of signal… and not a healthy one long term.

On the floor-crossing point... I agree the polling and these by-election numbers suggest this isn’t just a technical majority. The support looks real right now.

But here’s the catch…

Low turnout + strong polling can both be true at the same time.

Which means stability today doesn’t automatically equal engagement tomorrow.

That’s the piece I’m watching.

Claire Larose's avatar

And today he said that Carney was badly educated in economics. I actually spit my water out and was happy I didn’t choke

Sad part is if he wasn’t so condescending and arrogant, I would feel sorry for him but I just can’t. He’s demonstrated time and time again who he is and ´people are waking up as show these 3 by-election

Fred Ferguson (GeezerWise)'s avatar

Claire, that’s the part that’s hard to unsee once you see it.

You can debate policy all day…

but when the tone turns condescending, people check out fast.

That’s not a left/right thing... it’s human nature.

And yeah… these by-elections feel like early proof of that shift.

Not a landslide signal yet...

but definitely a “people are paying attention now” moment.

Claire Larose's avatar

I did my research and listened to them all speaking (Carney, Poilievre, Singh, etc) Met the Liberal candidate when he came to my hometown and listened to what he was saying. Talked to people about him Same with the candidate for NDP

Only thing I heard about the Conservative candidate was that the blue wave was coming and people were handing out signs. Never came to my hometown. Didn’t show up for the debates and he still won 🤦🏻‍♀️

I want Jack Layton to come back lol

Fred Ferguson (GeezerWise)'s avatar

Claire, that right there is the part people underestimate.

You did the work... listened, showed up, talked to people… and then you compare that to a candidate who barely showed up at all.

That gap matters more than party labels.

And yeah… when someone wins without really engaging, it says more about the system than the voters.

As for Jack Layton…

you’re not the only one thinking that.

He had a way of connecting that’s pretty rare these days.

Claire Larose's avatar

I remember where I was that day and I actually cried. Didn’t know him personally but I respected him like no others

Claire Larose's avatar

I don’t usually like a majority government but last night I was actually jumping for joy.

Scary, I voted Liberal for the first time in my life and am happy with a majority government. Ugh!

Fred Ferguson (GeezerWise)'s avatar

Claire… that “ugh” says it all 😄

I also voted Liberal for the first time in my life...

and I'm also happy they've got a majority government.

Sometimes it’s not about loyalty to a party...

rather it’s about the moment you’re living in.

When things feel uncertain, people don’t vote ideology…

they vote for what feels stable.

Doesn’t mean you’ve changed sides.

It just means you’re paying attention.

Carol-Ann Lamothe's avatar

I watched PP on Joe Rogan (You Tube). He appeared childlike and his incompetence really showed. His speeches made in other countries appeared fearful and inexperienced, especially in New York. Why would we want a leader like that? Not someone to have confidence in certainly.

Patsy Rideout's avatar

Great synopsis Fred! I think we all just want to settle in with this security, hoping the dumptrump wakes up & makes at least one good decision...walk out, give up the ghost, go play somewhere else & leave the rest of the world in peace Everyone has to have a dream, that's mine! haha.

Fred Ferguson (GeezerWise)'s avatar

Patsy, I think a lot of people are feeling that same “just let things stabilize for a minute” vibe.

The reality though… we don’t get to control what happens south of the border...

we only control how we respond to it.

If anything, that’s what this moment feels like to me…

Canada quietly getting its footing while the rest of the room’s still arguing.

Not flashy… but steady.

Patsy Rideout's avatar

Exactly! Thanks for always having a good viewpoint, steady as a rock, but, brutally honest! haha I like that, the truth always fits in :)

Steve O’Cally's avatar

The traditional Conservative approach to government is the pursuit of stodgy, stable adequacy in national affairs, and allowing individuals to then act in their personal best interests. Uncertainty has unexpected consequences.

Were conservatives of decades ago to see Canada’s plans for the future, they might breathe a sigh of relief. Tumult is a bother.

Intriguing.