The road from Pierre Laporte School. Those terrorists did not succeed in Separation, and some people feel they had good reasons to Separate. When I think of Alberta separating, there are no good reasons I know of. It seems to be motivated by unending GREED. I am horrified by the avarice of the entitled in our world. It is not Canadian to be driven by unending megalomaniac wealth and monumental greed, while the rest of Canada, The World can be left with penury.
I’m not surprised Janet that DS is all in with the greed and avarice she engaging with down south of us. It is horrifying! What I also find horrifying, if I may, is her unquenchable thirst for absolutely power, that seems to also go hand in hand with the rest of loved your comments!!
The totally crazy thing this separatist group is missing is that not one thin dime will go to them if Alberta becomes independent. Any windfall from this, and I don't believe there will be one, will go to the corporations and probably the American financiers who help them pull off the treasonous coup.
That’s a concern I’ve heard from a lot of people, Frank... that ordinary Albertans could be promised prosperity while the biggest winners end up being whoever controls the financing, resources, and leverage.
Big political divorces tend to be expensive, messy, and rarely unfold the way the sales pitch sounds at the beginning.
There’s definitely a growing perception of that, Patricia...
that this isn’t just ideology anymore, but power mixed with political survival.
The concern for many Canadians seems to be less about disagreement and more about whether leaders are putting the country ahead of the loudest part of their base.
Based on what you're saying, it sounds as though a vocal majority screaming like hell against the minimal separatist forces is what should be happening next.
And Smith needs to grow a pair and stand up for a united Canada instead of kissing up to the drooling unibrow Maple MAGA horde.
Patricia, Ouch.... but yes, that also fits. The more accurate description for MAGATS and MAPLE MAGATS is hate filled bigots. Without their hatred they would not have an emotion to rally around.
I think the federal government needs to be a lot louder about this situation. It is absolutely a small number of Albertans standing on the side of the road waving their ridiculous flags and yelling at traffic that are getting all press coverage.
I love the Wab Kinew told Smith to her face how wrong she is but Alberta and all of Canada needs to get loud!! It is affecting the whole country and definitely could stop investment into Canada. A country divided makes us look shaky, even though separation will never happen.I don’t see that Smith can change enough laws to make anything possible.
I think a lot of Canadians feel that tension right now, Shelagh... between “this is fringe” and “why does it feel like nobody in power is saying much?”
You’re probably right that the loudest voices get the cameras while quieter Albertans just go to work and live their lives.
And yes, uncertainty matters.
Even talk of division can make investors pause because markets like predictability, not constitutional drama 😄
Wab Kinew has definitely been one of the more direct voices in this conversation.
At the end of the day, I still think most Canadians... including most Albertans... want a stronger Alberta inside Canada, not outside it.
I think too Fred that what Wab Kinew did, in both calling her out, and the way he did it, was one of those seemingly small things that punch waaaaay above their weight. It really was quite spectacular that he was able to “box her in.” It was greatly needed. He kinda stopped her in her tracks, and she couldn’t manufacture a comeback - which has always been her strength - though I’m not meaning that it’s a positive one. The thing is he did something that mainstream media has not done, and that was needed. MSM hasn’t ever challenged her in all her circular word salads and contradictions - and outright lies and misrepresentations. Wab did good! 😊
I'm not sure I agree that 'separation will never happen'. I would like to think that it couldn't but with the group of MAGA followers pushing Smith in that direction, added to her own egregious opinions about our country, I am afraid that it could happen. I just hope that the whole lot moves to the US before it does. If they like the way the US does things so much, they ought to all get the hell out of Canada. We don't want them here.
a lot of people are feeling anxious and angry about where this rhetoric could lead.
My sense is most Canadians still want disagreements fought inside a united Canada, not by tearing the country apart.
At the same time, I’d rather see this settled at the ballot box and through debate than people writing each other off entirely.
Strong opinions are one thing... but if Canada’s going to stay strong, we probably need to find a way to argue without deciding fellow Canadians are beyond the pale.
I agree; the vote is where this will be settled. I just fervently hope that ALL voters turn out at the ballot box. This is not a time for apathy if we want to save our country. I have never missed a vote, be it municipal, provincial, or federal. I see it as a duty in addition to being a privilege. If we want our politicians to represent us, we need to elect those who will listen, and do what is right for the greater good.
I love your understated comments, and I hope Canadians are listening , following you. I grew up in Montreal, and have watched the Separatist movement for decades. Some elements have tried
Let’s review the circumstances of what led us to our current situation…. Ms. Smith gets invited down to Marayahoo to meet with the Tangerine Titan. She gets a happy-talk and a pat on the head by Mr. Trump. Now Ms. Premier gets it into her head that she should pull the Province she was elected to represent out of confederation and offer it to another country? Am I wrong? Am I perhaps overstating the potential threat to our country? Maybe. But it stinks. 😷 The whole thing stinks to me and has an additional whiff of bull-puckey to enhance it.
I kind of like Canada the way it is. I prefer to be able to drive straight across our country without having to drive all the way up through the North West Territories to get to the rest of our country (I’m not allowed in the U.S. of A. because I had a possession of cannabis charge in Canada when I was 18 and they seem to feel that I am an undesirable because of that)
It would be surprising and somewhat disappointing if it was that simple to break up a nation. It seems like it should take more than just a declaration by a questionable politician.
The road from Pierre Laporte School. Those terrorists did not succeed in Separation, and some people feel they had good reasons to Separate. When I think of Alberta separating, there are no good reasons I know of. It seems to be motivated by unending GREED. I am horrified by the avarice of the entitled in our world. It is not Canadian to be driven by unending megalomaniac wealth and monumental greed, while the rest of Canada, The World can be left with penury.
Haha… I think a lot of Canadians are feeling exactly what you’re describing, Janet...
not disagreement, but disbelief.
Most people can understand fighting for a fairer deal.
What scares folks is when frustration starts sounding like “burn the house down and keep the furniture.”
I’m not surprised Janet that DS is all in with the greed and avarice she engaging with down south of us. It is horrifying! What I also find horrifying, if I may, is her unquenchable thirst for absolutely power, that seems to also go hand in hand with the rest of loved your comments!!
The totally crazy thing this separatist group is missing is that not one thin dime will go to them if Alberta becomes independent. Any windfall from this, and I don't believe there will be one, will go to the corporations and probably the American financiers who help them pull off the treasonous coup.
That’s a concern I’ve heard from a lot of people, Frank... that ordinary Albertans could be promised prosperity while the biggest winners end up being whoever controls the financing, resources, and leverage.
Big political divorces tend to be expensive, messy, and rarely unfold the way the sales pitch sounds at the beginning.
There’s definitely a growing perception of that, Patricia...
that this isn’t just ideology anymore, but power mixed with political survival.
The concern for many Canadians seems to be less about disagreement and more about whether leaders are putting the country ahead of the loudest part of their base.
Based on what you're saying, it sounds as though a vocal majority screaming like hell against the minimal separatist forces is what should be happening next.
And Smith needs to grow a pair and stand up for a united Canada instead of kissing up to the drooling unibrow Maple MAGA horde.
Haha… I think a lot of Canadians are reaching the “enough already” stage, Frank.
The frustration feels less about left vs right and more about wanting leaders to say plainly...
Canada stays Canada. Full stop.
Strong disagreements? Fine.
Better deals for Alberta? Fair conversation.
But most people seem to want that debate happening inside the country...
not with one foot pointed at the exit door.
And knuckle-dragging too Frank? 😑
Patricia, Ouch.... but yes, that also fits. The more accurate description for MAGATS and MAPLE MAGATS is hate filled bigots. Without their hatred they would not have an emotion to rally around.
Oh! Good one Frank! It’s so true. Standing back, it really is quite tragic. Can you imagine being the one living inside one of them? EEEWWWWW!
I think the federal government needs to be a lot louder about this situation. It is absolutely a small number of Albertans standing on the side of the road waving their ridiculous flags and yelling at traffic that are getting all press coverage.
I love the Wab Kinew told Smith to her face how wrong she is but Alberta and all of Canada needs to get loud!! It is affecting the whole country and definitely could stop investment into Canada. A country divided makes us look shaky, even though separation will never happen.I don’t see that Smith can change enough laws to make anything possible.
I think a lot of Canadians feel that tension right now, Shelagh... between “this is fringe” and “why does it feel like nobody in power is saying much?”
You’re probably right that the loudest voices get the cameras while quieter Albertans just go to work and live their lives.
And yes, uncertainty matters.
Even talk of division can make investors pause because markets like predictability, not constitutional drama 😄
Wab Kinew has definitely been one of the more direct voices in this conversation.
At the end of the day, I still think most Canadians... including most Albertans... want a stronger Alberta inside Canada, not outside it.
I think too Fred that what Wab Kinew did, in both calling her out, and the way he did it, was one of those seemingly small things that punch waaaaay above their weight. It really was quite spectacular that he was able to “box her in.” It was greatly needed. He kinda stopped her in her tracks, and she couldn’t manufacture a comeback - which has always been her strength - though I’m not meaning that it’s a positive one. The thing is he did something that mainstream media has not done, and that was needed. MSM hasn’t ever challenged her in all her circular word salads and contradictions - and outright lies and misrepresentations. Wab did good! 😊
I think a lot of people saw it that way, Patricia...
less about political theatre and more about finally seeing someone ask direct questions and not let the conversation drift into circles.
Whether people agree with Wab or not, he was unusually clear and forceful in a moment when many felt others were speaking in half-sentences.
Sometimes one blunt exchange lands harder than months of headlines.
Your last sentence is a keeper Fred!
I'm not sure I agree that 'separation will never happen'. I would like to think that it couldn't but with the group of MAGA followers pushing Smith in that direction, added to her own egregious opinions about our country, I am afraid that it could happen. I just hope that the whole lot moves to the US before it does. If they like the way the US does things so much, they ought to all get the hell out of Canada. We don't want them here.
I hear the frustration, Leslie...
a lot of people are feeling anxious and angry about where this rhetoric could lead.
My sense is most Canadians still want disagreements fought inside a united Canada, not by tearing the country apart.
At the same time, I’d rather see this settled at the ballot box and through debate than people writing each other off entirely.
Strong opinions are one thing... but if Canada’s going to stay strong, we probably need to find a way to argue without deciding fellow Canadians are beyond the pale.
I agree; the vote is where this will be settled. I just fervently hope that ALL voters turn out at the ballot box. This is not a time for apathy if we want to save our country. I have never missed a vote, be it municipal, provincial, or federal. I see it as a duty in addition to being a privilege. If we want our politicians to represent us, we need to elect those who will listen, and do what is right for the greater good.
Agree wholeheartedly Leslie!
I love your understated comments, and I hope Canadians are listening , following you. I grew up in Montreal, and have watched the Separatist movement for decades. Some elements have tried
Thank you, Janet...
and growing up in Montreal gives you a front-row seat to how emotional and complicated these movements can become.
Quebec taught Canada that these things can simmer for decades, change shape, cool off, then flare back up again.
That history is probably why a lot of Canadians aren’t dismissing this as “nothing” quite as easily.
I did as well and I understand your angst.
Sorry to have cut my comment short !
Their were many Québécois with Renee Lévesque
And some who were ardent terrorists. I lived down
Janet, people who lived through that period carry a perspective many younger Canadians simply don’t have.
It’s one thing to read about fear in a history book... it’s another to remember the feeling in real time.
I think that’s partly why some Canadians are taking separatist rhetoric more seriously now.
History has a way of reminding us not to get too comfortable assuming “that could never happen here.”
Yes , I was there! The people were afraid, in fact terrified, in some cases.
I remember the morning I heard that Pierre Laporte had been found murdered. You were living there at that time? Must have been horrible! 😱
This is what is happening in the UK. With Reform and Restore.
Let’s review the circumstances of what led us to our current situation…. Ms. Smith gets invited down to Marayahoo to meet with the Tangerine Titan. She gets a happy-talk and a pat on the head by Mr. Trump. Now Ms. Premier gets it into her head that she should pull the Province she was elected to represent out of confederation and offer it to another country? Am I wrong? Am I perhaps overstating the potential threat to our country? Maybe. But it stinks. 😷 The whole thing stinks to me and has an additional whiff of bull-puckey to enhance it.
I kind of like Canada the way it is. I prefer to be able to drive straight across our country without having to drive all the way up through the North West Territories to get to the rest of our country (I’m not allowed in the U.S. of A. because I had a possession of cannabis charge in Canada when I was 18 and they seem to feel that I am an undesirable because of that)
It would be surprising and somewhat disappointing if it was that simple to break up a nation. It seems like it should take more than just a declaration by a questionable politician.
Separation is just a word for no plan. Like Trump just scream immigration.