I worked the graveyard shift for 4 years. When I finally had enough seniority to move to 2nd shift, I quickly realized something. I didn't realize how my body and mental attitude was affected because it had become a constant state of being to the point of normal until I slept at night and realized the change.
American is the same. Being in an environment of suppression for generations, they have no comparison to what it should be like when democracy works as intended. Normal is fighting for dominance of one party over another with separate ideology. Not lower vehicle cost or prescription medicine higher in the US than other countries is not a priority.
Looking forward to it as our second car. We have an SUV to haul the camper around but the second vehicle rarely goes more than 120km, usually 30-35km at a time. An electric car will be perfect.
I costed the mileage against our old Prius that would get 55-60mpg imperial gallon. If we charged an electric at night, when rates are low, the fuel cost was 1/7 of our Prius.
Chinese e-car manufacturer BYD (build your dream) is already # 1 worldwide. It is highly doubtful at this time how any Western car manufacturer will be able to compete with this 20+ year established AND vertically integrated company on price, features and quality - once the markets are opened without penalty import duties (tariffs).
I live in Asia and have a Chinese EV. A Solid well-built car, literally no problems in the 1st year. No haggle, $22k, the only dealer add-on was $100 to
Install a charger at my home. Canadians should consider themselves lucky
America focuses on for-profit, and greed at the literal expense of their customers! That's why vehicles purchased in the United States cost so much money, and those costs have risen exponentially over the years!
For Annie. You are completely correct about needing reliability in products. However, Canadians are smart. If the Chinese cars don’t measure up, Canadians can rework what needs to be fixed.
I am American and I am totally, completely fed up. Most of us Americans were raised with the idea that America is #1 across the board on EVERYTHING. That is sooooo untrue and wrong-headed. But, it took me to adulthood and then some to see how utterly messed up that fantasy is. Most Countries have their ingenuity and that fact needs to be known and acknowledged everywhere. More power to Canada in this venture. What a bright idea! I hope Canada completely screws over the US along these lines. Make average Americans fight this idiotic regime for what is reasonable.
Most Canadians don’t want to “screw over” Americans. We’re neighbors, friends, and deeply connected economies.
What’s happening right now is more about countries protecting their own stability than attacking the U.S. When policy gets unpredictable, others diversify. That’s just risk management.
And you’re absolutely right about one thing... no country has a monopoly on innovation. Good ideas come from everywhere.
This relies on assuming these cars are reliable. However, Russia has the for a couple of years already and Russians have an unfavourable opinion of them. There's many videos of them stranded on the side of the road and of all those that spontaneously emitting flames. .
Moscow taxis complain that BYD EVs are completely finished beyond repair after 115,000 to 125,000 km, which is pretty low in the Canadian context, to the point that they much prefer their Ladas.
Anyone remembering how bad Ladas were and how short-lived their disappointing presence was in Canada might get a feel for what Russians experience with BYD vehicles.
Fred... We'll see. But apparently the discontent is real. It would be better to seek real numbers and facts than to brush away the situation with hopeful assumptions of panaceas. There are numbers mentioned: 115,000 to 125,000 kms. Where else outside China have these vehicles already been in use for a few years already that could offer numbers? Especially in cold climates?
BYD Reviews | Read Customer Service Reviews of byd.comhttps://share.google/nna7tavovtAeRrath
-This report about paint peeling in brand new cars spells endless rust nightmares on salted Canadian roads and streets. Roofs deforming with a roof rack means the structure is weak and the steel used is too thin. What happens in the case of an accident in a car made out of pie pan thick sheet metal? https://insideevs.com/news/712148/byd-quality-problems-hit-international-markets/
-Near-slavery work conditions in Brazil. This type of situation is never conducive to quality output and is similar to work conditions at BYD factories in China. BYD Brazil scandal exposes flaws in Chinese investment https://share.google/GySjHVODmh4LU4ufb
-Disatisfaction in Brazil with repairs that take much longer than normally expected, recurrent problems with brakes, suspension and steering gear that don't get fixed in a timely manner by dealerships, then customers get told they are out of warranty. Dealers not carrying commonplace parts such as headlights. Chrome will translate the article for you if you don't read Portuguese. Proprietários do BYD Dolphin relatam falta de peças e defeitos sem solução | Quatro Rodas https://share.google/ykKEv2I0nV21mZkHR
115,000 cars recalled in China itself, many for battery fire hazards. BYD convoca mais de 115 mil carros por risco na bateria https://share.google/WuN9iwu5d3QxfH85A
Hell, us 'consumers' should be getting $10,000 Chinese EV's. Protecting industries by 100% tariffs screws us average income citizens. We can't afford new cars anymore even with 7 years loans. Why does Capitalism only work for the rich? Because that's the way it is designed to work...
Canada is making big economical moves, that are going to hurt our country. Carney has so out maneuverd trump,but what can you expect from someone who's smarter in finance.
I worked the graveyard shift for 4 years. When I finally had enough seniority to move to 2nd shift, I quickly realized something. I didn't realize how my body and mental attitude was affected because it had become a constant state of being to the point of normal until I slept at night and realized the change.
American is the same. Being in an environment of suppression for generations, they have no comparison to what it should be like when democracy works as intended. Normal is fighting for dominance of one party over another with separate ideology. Not lower vehicle cost or prescription medicine higher in the US than other countries is not a priority.
That’s a sharp comparison. Humans adapt to conditions… even unhealthy ones.
Politics is no different.
If conflict becomes the default environment, people start assuming that’s just how things are supposed to work.
Looking forward to it as our second car. We have an SUV to haul the camper around but the second vehicle rarely goes more than 120km, usually 30-35km at a time. An electric car will be perfect.
I costed the mileage against our old Prius that would get 55-60mpg imperial gallon. If we charged an electric at night, when rates are low, the fuel cost was 1/7 of our Prius.
🇨🇦💙 Got mine already picked out. A Geely Coolray 🥳
Excellent! Tell me how you like it Roxy... I'm really excited to know.
How do you go about it, purchasing it.
Not sure yet - I’ll keep you posted. 🚙
Chinese e-car manufacturer BYD (build your dream) is already # 1 worldwide. It is highly doubtful at this time how any Western car manufacturer will be able to compete with this 20+ year established AND vertically integrated company on price, features and quality - once the markets are opened without penalty import duties (tariffs).
Well done Canada
Excellent article
Wonder how many Americans will be looking for ways to get in on the deal, just like with our Prescriptions.
Trump’s trade war will prove as disastrous as his casinos.
Good they can keep that Tesla shit in the states
I live in Asia and have a Chinese EV. A Solid well-built car, literally no problems in the 1st year. No haggle, $22k, the only dealer add-on was $100 to
Install a charger at my home. Canadians should consider themselves lucky
US Crapitalism takes a big hit!
Canada Is focusing on affordability!
America focuses on for-profit, and greed at the literal expense of their customers! That's why vehicles purchased in the United States cost so much money, and those costs have risen exponentially over the years!
For Annie. You are completely correct about needing reliability in products. However, Canadians are smart. If the Chinese cars don’t measure up, Canadians can rework what needs to be fixed.
I am American and I am totally, completely fed up. Most of us Americans were raised with the idea that America is #1 across the board on EVERYTHING. That is sooooo untrue and wrong-headed. But, it took me to adulthood and then some to see how utterly messed up that fantasy is. Most Countries have their ingenuity and that fact needs to be known and acknowledged everywhere. More power to Canada in this venture. What a bright idea! I hope Canada completely screws over the US along these lines. Make average Americans fight this idiotic regime for what is reasonable.
Mary... I hear your frustration.
Most Canadians don’t want to “screw over” Americans. We’re neighbors, friends, and deeply connected economies.
What’s happening right now is more about countries protecting their own stability than attacking the U.S. When policy gets unpredictable, others diversify. That’s just risk management.
And you’re absolutely right about one thing... no country has a monopoly on innovation. Good ideas come from everywhere.
This relies on assuming these cars are reliable. However, Russia has the for a couple of years already and Russians have an unfavourable opinion of them. There's many videos of them stranded on the side of the road and of all those that spontaneously emitting flames. .
Moscow taxis complain that BYD EVs are completely finished beyond repair after 115,000 to 125,000 km, which is pretty low in the Canadian context, to the point that they much prefer their Ladas.
Anyone remembering how bad Ladas were and how short-lived their disappointing presence was in Canada might get a feel for what Russians experience with BYD vehicles.
Annie... a few taxi anecdotes and internet videos aren’t the same thing as industry data.
BYD didn’t become the world’s largest EV manufacturer by selling cars that all fall apart at 120,000 km.
Fleet taxis also rack up brutal mileage compared to normal drivers.
Could there be reliability issues? Sure... every automaker has them early on.
But the real disruption here is price.
A $25K EV changes the competitive landscape whether people like the brand or not.
That’s the headline risk for legacy automakers.
Fred... We'll see. But apparently the discontent is real. It would be better to seek real numbers and facts than to brush away the situation with hopeful assumptions of panaceas. There are numbers mentioned: 115,000 to 125,000 kms. Where else outside China have these vehicles already been in use for a few years already that could offer numbers? Especially in cold climates?
BYD Reviews | Read Customer Service Reviews of byd.comhttps://share.google/nna7tavovtAeRrath
-This report about paint peeling in brand new cars spells endless rust nightmares on salted Canadian roads and streets. Roofs deforming with a roof rack means the structure is weak and the steel used is too thin. What happens in the case of an accident in a car made out of pie pan thick sheet metal? https://insideevs.com/news/712148/byd-quality-problems-hit-international-markets/
-Near-slavery work conditions in Brazil. This type of situation is never conducive to quality output and is similar to work conditions at BYD factories in China. BYD Brazil scandal exposes flaws in Chinese investment https://share.google/GySjHVODmh4LU4ufb
-Disatisfaction in Brazil with repairs that take much longer than normally expected, recurrent problems with brakes, suspension and steering gear that don't get fixed in a timely manner by dealerships, then customers get told they are out of warranty. Dealers not carrying commonplace parts such as headlights. Chrome will translate the article for you if you don't read Portuguese. Proprietários do BYD Dolphin relatam falta de peças e defeitos sem solução | Quatro Rodas https://share.google/ykKEv2I0nV21mZkHR
115,000 cars recalled in China itself, many for battery fire hazards. BYD convoca mais de 115 mil carros por risco na bateria https://share.google/WuN9iwu5d3QxfH85A
Unethical behaviour from the company. https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1CGH2acszJ/
And much more. All of this in a really short time, in climates that aren't much easier on cars than Canada.
Hell, us 'consumers' should be getting $10,000 Chinese EV's. Protecting industries by 100% tariffs screws us average income citizens. We can't afford new cars anymore even with 7 years loans. Why does Capitalism only work for the rich? Because that's the way it is designed to work...
I get the frustration... cars are ridiculously expensive right now.
But tariffs aren’t just about companies. They’re about protecting jobs and supply chains too.
Cheap imports can help prices short-term, but losing domestic industry hurts workers long-term.
The real issue is affordability has fallen behind wages... and that’s a bigger policy problem than tariffs alone.
Canada is making big economical moves, that are going to hurt our country. Carney has so out maneuverd trump,but what can you expect from someone who's smarter in finance.