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Patsy Rideout's avatar

I love love love this post Fred. I have read up on some of it, but, you gathered it all together in your usual spectacular way. I feel like the divorce papers are signed & so much love & respect showed up on our doorstep & waterways, with open hands & hearts, from so many countries who all love Canada & Canadians & our PM, because we all have very similar values. Thank you :)

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I'm not so sure that TKMS (the German/Norwegian company) responded because of the US "pausing" the joint board. I interpreted it more as a response to the KSS-III proposal from South Korea (which, besides subs, was looking at establishing a military/heavy-duty vehicle manufacturing plant in Canada, if not a Hyundai factory/partnership too.) And with Hanwha Ocean is known for meeting delivery deadlines and promised four subs by 2030 or so. So TKMS had to sharpen their pencils/spreadsheets -- and they did (though bumping two of Germany's and Norway's subs in the production line to do it). And I think, besides doing a lot of the manufacturing in Canada now, they're still bringing Volvo/Audi to the table too, for some aspects of vehicle manufacturing.

But your broad point is really REALLY spot-on: Canada is aggressively being courted!

This will be a very difficult decision: Go with Europe, and we end up with a highly integrated sub-fleet, with the potential for other joint integrations that are even deeper than those in the current NATO. This is hugely significant, giving an integrated sub fleet of 24 boats (12 Canadian, 6 Norwegian, 6 German) with Arctic coverage being the focus.

But with the Korean bid, it's also a chance to do similar naval development in the Asian/Pacific theatre.

Technically/strategically, we want/need to do both. But really can't. This one is going to be tough!

(Picking Gripens will be a heck of a lot easier!)

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