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Kyle Alan Lencucha's avatar

The political language around this felt very transparently tongue and cheek and in some ways bafflingly exposes even further how incompetent Republican politicians can be

Like ya Carney can put it in writing that they’ll stop the booze ban and put It back on the shelves but do these idiots not realize it’s the PEOPLE that started this?

We’re the ones who have control over what we do and don’t buy, personally this was the easiest boycott for me because I don’t really drink much alcohol in general, the only time I do is at social gatherings (bars, parties etc)

Fred Ferguson (GeezerWise)'s avatar

Exactly, Kyle.

That’s the part Washington seems unable to grasp.

Carney can agree to put American booze back on the shelves.

**He can’t agree that Canadians will buy it.**

The government started the restriction.

Canadians turned it into something much bigger... a change in buying habits.

And once people discover they can simply spend their money somewhere else, that’s a hell of a lot harder to reverse than a government policy.

Grant Rowson's avatar

No, they don't understand that this was grass-roots driven, not top-down. ;-)

They haven't had something like this happen on their side of the border for a very long time - so they actually can't envision it. Worse, they seem to think it's just about "hurt feelings" and "Canadians can't take a joke."

Fred Ferguson (GeezerWise)'s avatar

Exactly, Grant.

That’s the part I think they badly misread.

Governments may have put the bottles behind the curtain, but Canadians decided what happened next.

This stopped being about hurt feelings a long time ago.

People changed habits, found Canadian and other alternatives, cancelled trips, changed where they spent their money... and discovered they could.

You can negotiate away a government restriction.

**You can’t negotiate away a grassroots change in behaviour.**

Grant Rowson's avatar

I'm not sure that we have straight-forward answers to why AB and SK "folded too early." Probably a combination of "all of the above" -- and you can put whatever thoughts you want into the "above" bucket.

Both AB's CPC and SK's Sask Party have significant right-wing electorate -- though not the whole of the parties think this way. Much like American Republicans -- not all are MAGA.

I suspect that Moe -- who is extremely good at talking logic to these things, to cover up whatever real reasons they had for doing it -- would be the first to state the exact point that I suspect all of us would say: "we can put it on the shelves -- but how many people will actually BUY it? Those that don't buy it - well, see Americans, we TOLD you. Don't blame my government. For those that do, well, we respect your right to do that (and remember who to vote for during the next election!)"

Whatever. From what I can discover, American alcohol sales in both provinces is substantially lower than what it was before.

Fred Ferguson (GeezerWise)'s avatar

Fair point, Grant.

“Folded too early” probably makes the motivation sound simpler than it was.

And your larger point may actually strengthen mine... Alberta and Saskatchewan could put the bottles back on the shelves and tell Washington, “There, we removed the restriction.”

Then Canadians in those provinces could walk right past them anyway.

If American alcohol sales there are still substantially below where they were before all this started, that’s the interesting part to me.

**Government policy can change overnight.

Consumer behaviour doesn’t necessarily follow it back.**

That’s becoming the bigger story.