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Impolite Goose's avatar

Yeah the Lake America nonsense is jsut a clown show off to the side of the main act. I can spare a moment to look over and laugh at the clown, but I'm not worried about it nor do I think anyone else really is. He can call it whatever he likes, it will always be Lake Ontario

Bev's avatar

So, I m all excited about the PM s commitment to open negotiations with Europe this fall. As soon as next week? Because the world looks like it s got to make a lot of reinvestment in supply and war economies and that means more money going in new places and why not us? Seems to me if they want to keep an eye on what the US is up to they ll do well to be building over here just like we did in Europe post war.

We need to open new transport systems, eg to Chuchill and I hope lots more rail. We ll need people from everywhere which means feeing and housing and moving and educating and amusing and so on.

The weather s changing which is harsh but also holds promise for the North to open more.

It s going to be a very different world in 25 years and I wish I could see it.

The USA will be hot or melted or drowned or diseased; the Four Horsemen will take. a heavy toll and maybe we ll finally get a solid border. The 21 Century will be Canada s.

Grant Rowson's avatar

An advantage here is that Canada already has a CEPA with EU/UK - it's just encouraging businesses on "both sides of the pond" to really start using it, if they aren't already.

One of the reasons why Trump is really going out of his way to economically and rhetorically punish us is that the USA cannot afford for the bully's victims to stand up against the bully en masse (gotta through in a French term here, to annoy him!). If Europe/UK/Canada suddenly start doing more things visibly, and then Oceania joins in, then S. Korean/Japan . . . . the theoretical talk has been happening for 1.5 years now. But if we DO it, that crashes Trump's influence. And heaven help him if India joins in, with Mexico/Brazil . . . and if China behaves itself (and doesn't act American here . . . .).

Bev's avatar

Love it. perfect response. and to the US supporters who think they ll keep going after Trump. Perhaps with a more presentable front man. But we re showing the world how decency s done again. It s the bigger move.

Grant Rowson's avatar

I was looking through some of our proposed counter-to-the-counter-to-the-counter-to-the-illegal/original tariffs. Essentially, what are the new items we're proposing to tariff. In the spirit of "building something," a little thing stood out:

Honey.

In the bunch of counters that Trump introduced this weekend, one Canadian industry that was targeted was Canadian honey. Several prairie apiaries announced "I'm out of business with this - 90% of my sales go to the USA, and my customers there can't afford a 50% increase in price."

But in yesterday's counter-to-that-counter (going into effect Sep 8), Canada will tariff USA honey. So what that SHOULD encourage, is for Canadian companies to drop their American imports -- and presumably purchase from the "out of business" apiaries here in Canada!

So, are we building a Canadian supply chain here, for Canadian businesses at both ends? Most definitely. Hopefully the costs related to this (cross-Canada distribution) are practical enough so that when/if all the tariffs end, the Canadian supply chain will remain.

Fingers crossed

#ElbowsUp #GlovesOff

Bev's avatar

I wonder about that too. Seems to me there s a lot of world out there that needs feeding and maybe they ll take a bit of a hit on pofit but still be able to sell. New markets. Government should be helping identify who and facilitate access. Also I believe honey keeps, maybe we need to build some national supply base.

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I awake every morning to the shimmering waters of Lake Ontario. Ontario is an Iroquois word for shimmering waters and trust me they do shimmer in every weather during every season.Beautiful!!!

Now if we change the name to Lake America, that would bring images of graft , greed, racism, and most importantly arrogance. Now that’s an insult to a most beautiful natural phenomenon.

Fred you are so right. I am fully aware that I probably do not fully understand all the risks we face.I am not aware of all the dangers ahead but I am overwhelmed with a sense of opportunity to be part of a great awakening and revival of a modern nation, a new world order, a cleansing of past mistakes, a brighter kinder, more civilized future.

Keep Building Canada!! We are the world’s “shimmering waters”

Jim Veinot's avatar

I hear you, Fred. I've spent the summer gradually ridding myself of the pain of unfocussed anger by replacing it with the joy of shared accomplishment. I now refuse to read almost anything that's about the USA dilemma and choose news about the Great Canadian Nation Building. I'm so proud of our country that I could burst!! Anger may provide short term relief but joy is long term pleasure.

Kathy T's avatar

What a great frame for our thinking pivot - what did Canada build today? Many of our plans will far outlast the current US administration, and that is oh so good for our country!

Patricia Poohkay's avatar

The distinction between the two concepts was so well done! 👏 Thank you for yet another clarifying article. Nothing extraneous taking the focus off into the hinterland. Truly a gift well shared! 🇨🇦