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djw's avatar

Keep reminding your readers that these arguments are exactly the same as the US Pedo has used for years and he's lied on every 1 of them and everything else he's ever had to say. If they don't want what we have here in the US, they need to shut this joker up.

Fred Ferguson (GeezerWise)'s avatar

djw, that American experience is exactly why I'm paying attention.

You folks have already watched this playbook...

take a real problem, crank the fear to eleven, repeat the scariest version until people accept it as fact, then present yourself as the solution.

I don't want Canada learning that lesson after the damage is done.

I want us recognizing the tactic while it's happening.

djw's avatar

Exactly. The advantage you have is that where already written they pay book; you just need to be sure your people grasp it! 😁

Cat JB's avatar

Good article. PeePee is nothing more than a trump wannabe. We need to keep rejecting the conservatives.

Kevin 🇨🇦's avatar

Oh Pierre. Just get your security clearance already. Your fear mongering act is wearing extremely thin.

Fred Ferguson (GeezerWise)'s avatar

That’s where I land too, Kevin.

If national security is going to become one of your biggest political weapons, then get yourself access to the best national-security information available.

And if you choose not to, don’t fill the information gap with scarier rhetoric.

Canadians deserve evidence before adjectives.

Kathleen's avatar

I don't really think this is a 'choice' for the reasons PeePee claims. A Top Secret security clearance includes a deep-dive into spousal family and history. Doesn't his spouse come from Venezuela?? Perhaps he wants to keep some family info 'private'?

Lee's avatar

Probably better he doesn't have it and possibly couldn't get it?

Frank Kuma's avatar

The last thing we need in Canada is anything resembling American politics or American corrupt politicians. The USA political system is the most corrupt on the planet.

Fred Ferguson (GeezerWise)'s avatar

Frank, I’m with you on not importing the worst of American politics into Canada.

I’ll push back on one thing, though... the U.S. isn’t the most corrupt political system on the planet.

It has serious problems and its corruption ranking has been sliding, but the facts don’t support going that far.

And that’s exactly the standard I want around here... even when somebody is making a point I agree with.

FACTS, NOT FABLES cuts both ways.

Jim Veinot's avatar

Pierre isn't a leader. At best he's a figurehead. We already have a "saviour". He leads the way as people learn to save their country. Maybe there's 701? Where's your clearance, Pierre?

Fred Ferguson (GeezerWise)'s avatar

Jim, the “maybe there’s 701” got me. 😂

But that last question is the one I keep coming back to... Where’s your clearance, Pierre?

If you’re going to tell Canadians we’re crawling with terrorist agents, I’d prefer you have access to the best intelligence Canada has before frightening the hell out of everybody.

Facts first.

Fear later... preferably never.

Grant Rowson's avatar

Yes, PP says it's a gag-order on his free political speech (that part is commonly mentioned). One fine point that seldom is mentioned about this "security clearance" bit: If he is going on about something that *is* sensitive, he knows that his opponent (usually the PM) CAN'T REBUT or challenge PP's arguments properly, because to do so would then disclose the sensitive information further. So, a sucker-punch weapon for him!

The only response, to give (when he goes on about the first point), is to say "but you realize that you are also demonstrating to Canadians that you are incapable of handling sensitive/secret information - very irresponsible! Oh, and the strategy hasn't been helping your cause, either, according to the opinion polls and election results . . . . ."

And as others have indicated already (of sorts), again, his whole messaging strategy here is 100% out of the authoritarian playbook (per Trump, Farage, LePen, Orban, etc.). The timing to be drowning the electorate with this maybe isn't really right now - certainly, it would be for any byelection, though.

Fred Ferguson (GeezerWise)'s avatar

Grant, THAT is the wrinkle I hadn't given enough attention to.

Refusing the clearance doesn't just leave Pierre free to say what he wants... it can create an information imbalance.

Someone with access to the classified intelligence may know his public claim is incomplete or misleading and still be unable to tell Canadians why without disclosing protected information.

I wouldn't claim that's Pierre's motive unless we can prove it.

But as a consequence of the choice?

That's worth examining.

And it makes “I don't want the clearance because it would muzzle me” considerably more complicated than it sounds.

You may have just handed me another FACTS, NOT FABLES piece. 😁

Iain's avatar

Same product. Avoid. A disgrace to a proud tradition - any leader worth his salt would have recognized the need for a consolidated national response to an overwhelming challenge to our country - not pp

e.e.'s avatar

He is a malignant mole on Canada's backside. His fear tactics don't work - that's why he lost his seat. But the foolish man doesn't know how to work a 'real' job. He's a mouthy backbencher who had to manipulate another riding so he could continue to live rent & mortgage free at Stornoway. I cannot even listen to his voice without wanting to vomit. Quit giving this loud mouth a microphone.

Bev's avatar

His voice, his name,his image all evoke a very hostile negative emotion. I stop/avoid any of them every time they appear on any screen in my view. I had to buck up to read this article. Just the once,Fred,because it s you.

Faraz's avatar

PP is a strange little man.

My experience with daily weightlifting is that it serves to calm my angriest instincts. His issues though apparently get supercharged…along with his tendency to spout BS. Polling thankfully shows that Canadians just just aren't buying what he's selling.

Jessica DeFalco's avatar

That’s the playbook. They have everyone down here running scared. I don’t know how these MAGA dipshits get out of bed in the morning. They’re scared of immigrants. Women. Brown people. Trans people. Gay people. Democrats. Muslims. Jews. Black people. Communists. Socialists. Tourists. Vaccines.

They are literally terrified.

Bev's avatar

I m afraid all right. I m afraid because he has too much support among nice decent men who still somehow believe he represents the old PC party where I live and likely across the country. They just can t get past the classic Liberal/Conservative divide they grew up with. I shiver in my boots because I believe he represents something very dark and corrupt who should not be living in Stornaway, which is a tribute to our country s founding belief that governance is a joint effort. And until the con party wakes up and reclaims its decency, there are too many others in there who will find a clone to promote.

Josee's avatar

He has to be louder now… the convoy crowd that initially backed him is quieter these days 😏

Velvet Dunn's avatar

This piece of fucking human scum can fucking rot with Trump.

ThroughTheSmokeScreen's avatar

Don't forget his contrarian vilification of anything positive that gets reported. There's always a hint from him of info being left out of positive outcomes, the "other" side of the story the public hasn't heard but he has. He speaks as an insider but has no clearance, no plan, and his party barely consults him.