A massive bottling expansion in Ontario signals something far more important: companies are moving production closer to home, and Canada is becoming part of that strategy.
How much water will they use and pollute. Where will they get this water. The Great Lakes are one of the largest fresh water lakes in the world. If Coke, Pepsi and AI centers are all drawing from the Great Lakes how long before they are extinct??? What does that due for human and wildlife consumption??? How about the plastic throw away?? Will these Co. be responsible for bottle clean up???
Environmental impact is a fair question Jeanie. Large industrial projects always come with resource considerations, including water use and waste management.
Canada has some of the strictest environmental permitting requirements in the world, and projects like this are typically subject to detailed impact assessments before approval.
It’s worth watching closely... both economic opportunity and environmental stewardship matter.
You're talking through you hat on this what does Brampton charge for 200 million more cases of water? What does the do. Watch closely mean you have no clue we be just been screwed.
“Pop” or “soda” is considered to be one of the main drivers of obesity and diabetes, and is not a necessary dietary need. Plus Coca Cola has a VERY unsavoury history.
Top Plastic Polluter: Coca-Cola has been named the world's number one plastic polluter for six consecutive years by the "Break Free From Plastic" global audit.
Plastic Production: The company produces more than 100 billion single-use plastic bottles annually.
Broken Promises: Despite pledges to improve sustainability, the company has been criticized for abandoning goals to reduce plastic usage and failing to increase the use of recycled content.
Greenwashing Lawsuits: Coca-Cola has faced lawsuits alleging that its marketing of bottles as "100% recyclable" or "100% recycled" is deceptive and constitutes greenwashing.
Resource Depletion: In many regions, particularly in India and Mexico, local communities have accused Coca-Cola of depleting groundwater resources, leading to water shortages for agriculture and domestic use.
Drought Usage: In 2022, it was reported that Coca-Cola continued to use private wells in Mexico to extract water for production, even as the region was experiencing a severe drought and emergency water shortages.
"Drinking the World Dry": Campaigns, such as those from War on Want, have highlighted the company's high water footprint, which requires, on average, over 1.5 liters of water to produce just 1 liter of beverage.
Public Health Impact
Sugar and Obesity: Regular consumption of Coca-Cola is linked to obesity, type 2 diabetes, and cardiovascular diseases. A single can contains about 10 teaspoons of sugar, exceeding the daily recommended intake.
Impact on Children: High availability of sugary drinks in areas like Chiapas, Mexico, has been linked to a diabetes emergency, with soda sometimes more accessible than fresh water.
"Shadowy" Science: The company has been criticized for funding research that shifts the blame for obesity away from diet and toward lack
Labor and Ethical Issues
Anti-Union Policies: Coca-Cola has faced multiple allegations regarding the intimidation of union workers and violation of workers' rights in various countries, including Colombia, Peru, and Russia.
Human Rights Concerns: In Southeast Asia, the company has faced scrutiny for its supply chain, including allegations of sourcing sugar from plantations linked to land-grabbing and forced displacement.
Boycotts: The company is currently subject to a boycott call from the BDS (Boycott, Divestment, Sanctions) movement due to its operations in Israel.
Corporate Practices and Scandals
Tax Disputes: The company has been involved in major disputes with tax authorities, including a $2.7 billion dispute with the US Internal Revenue Service.
"Channel Stuffing": In 2000, shareholders accused the company of "channel stuffing"—forcing bottlers to purchase unnecessary inventory to artificially inflate sales figures, a case that settled for $137.5 million.
Contaminated Products: In 1999, a massive health scare in Europe led to a, at the time, unprecedented recall of millions of bottles due to reports of sickness.
I also think it’s strategic due to our access to water. Hope they will pay fairly for this. Region of Peel, which includes Brampton, charges its residents for water and sewer usage.
This is good news for Brampton construction workers , but it is a modernization step by the company that is probably needed. The modernization may in fact create efficiencies that reduce labour costs. I doubt it creates much new manufacturing employment. As a last point bottled products are very expensive to ship, I doubt there was any consideration to relocating this production .
You’re right that automation and modernization usually mean efficiency first John... companies don’t spend hundreds of millions out of charity.
The primary goal is lower unit cost, higher output, and more consistent quality.
That said, there are a couple of important layers here.
First, capital investment decisions are signals. A $100M+ upgrade tells you the company expects long-term demand in that region.
Firms don’t modernize plants they plan to abandon.
Second, while automation can reduce some labour intensity per unit produced, it often shifts jobs rather than simply eliminating them...
more skilled technical roles, maintenance, logistics, and supply chain work.
And you’re absolutely correct about shipping.
Beverages are heavy and low-margin per pound to transport. Local production near major population centres like the GTA almost always makes economic sense.
So the headline isn’t really “job boom.”
It’s “facility secured for the future.”
Which, in manufacturing today, is actually meaningful news.
It’s about the cans. so, this new stuff in the plant will be super automated, i wonder how many new employees there will be? or, how many they can do without once fully in place and running?
How much water will they use and pollute. Where will they get this water. The Great Lakes are one of the largest fresh water lakes in the world. If Coke, Pepsi and AI centers are all drawing from the Great Lakes how long before they are extinct??? What does that due for human and wildlife consumption??? How about the plastic throw away?? Will these Co. be responsible for bottle clean up???
Environmental impact is a fair question Jeanie. Large industrial projects always come with resource considerations, including water use and waste management.
Canada has some of the strictest environmental permitting requirements in the world, and projects like this are typically subject to detailed impact assessments before approval.
It’s worth watching closely... both economic opportunity and environmental stewardship matter.
You're talking through you hat on this what does Brampton charge for 200 million more cases of water? What does the do. Watch closely mean you have no clue we be just been screwed.
This is NOT a win for Ontario or Canada.
“Pop” or “soda” is considered to be one of the main drivers of obesity and diabetes, and is not a necessary dietary need. Plus Coca Cola has a VERY unsavoury history.
Top Plastic Polluter: Coca-Cola has been named the world's number one plastic polluter for six consecutive years by the "Break Free From Plastic" global audit.
Plastic Production: The company produces more than 100 billion single-use plastic bottles annually.
Broken Promises: Despite pledges to improve sustainability, the company has been criticized for abandoning goals to reduce plastic usage and failing to increase the use of recycled content.
Greenwashing Lawsuits: Coca-Cola has faced lawsuits alleging that its marketing of bottles as "100% recyclable" or "100% recycled" is deceptive and constitutes greenwashing.
Resource Depletion: In many regions, particularly in India and Mexico, local communities have accused Coca-Cola of depleting groundwater resources, leading to water shortages for agriculture and domestic use.
Drought Usage: In 2022, it was reported that Coca-Cola continued to use private wells in Mexico to extract water for production, even as the region was experiencing a severe drought and emergency water shortages.
"Drinking the World Dry": Campaigns, such as those from War on Want, have highlighted the company's high water footprint, which requires, on average, over 1.5 liters of water to produce just 1 liter of beverage.
Public Health Impact
Sugar and Obesity: Regular consumption of Coca-Cola is linked to obesity, type 2 diabetes, and cardiovascular diseases. A single can contains about 10 teaspoons of sugar, exceeding the daily recommended intake.
Impact on Children: High availability of sugary drinks in areas like Chiapas, Mexico, has been linked to a diabetes emergency, with soda sometimes more accessible than fresh water.
"Shadowy" Science: The company has been criticized for funding research that shifts the blame for obesity away from diet and toward lack
Labor and Ethical Issues
Anti-Union Policies: Coca-Cola has faced multiple allegations regarding the intimidation of union workers and violation of workers' rights in various countries, including Colombia, Peru, and Russia.
Human Rights Concerns: In Southeast Asia, the company has faced scrutiny for its supply chain, including allegations of sourcing sugar from plantations linked to land-grabbing and forced displacement.
Boycotts: The company is currently subject to a boycott call from the BDS (Boycott, Divestment, Sanctions) movement due to its operations in Israel.
Corporate Practices and Scandals
Tax Disputes: The company has been involved in major disputes with tax authorities, including a $2.7 billion dispute with the US Internal Revenue Service.
"Channel Stuffing": In 2000, shareholders accused the company of "channel stuffing"—forcing bottlers to purchase unnecessary inventory to artificially inflate sales figures, a case that settled for $137.5 million.
Contaminated Products: In 1999, a massive health scare in Europe led to a, at the time, unprecedented recall of millions of bottles due to reports of sickness.
Excellent information
I also think it’s strategic due to our access to water. Hope they will pay fairly for this. Region of Peel, which includes Brampton, charges its residents for water and sewer usage.
https://youtu.be/PsrJdsKYmoo?si=KcYS8tH7Oj83u13F
This is good news for Brampton construction workers , but it is a modernization step by the company that is probably needed. The modernization may in fact create efficiencies that reduce labour costs. I doubt it creates much new manufacturing employment. As a last point bottled products are very expensive to ship, I doubt there was any consideration to relocating this production .
You’re right that automation and modernization usually mean efficiency first John... companies don’t spend hundreds of millions out of charity.
The primary goal is lower unit cost, higher output, and more consistent quality.
That said, there are a couple of important layers here.
First, capital investment decisions are signals. A $100M+ upgrade tells you the company expects long-term demand in that region.
Firms don’t modernize plants they plan to abandon.
Second, while automation can reduce some labour intensity per unit produced, it often shifts jobs rather than simply eliminating them...
more skilled technical roles, maintenance, logistics, and supply chain work.
And you’re absolutely correct about shipping.
Beverages are heavy and low-margin per pound to transport. Local production near major population centres like the GTA almost always makes economic sense.
So the headline isn’t really “job boom.”
It’s “facility secured for the future.”
Which, in manufacturing today, is actually meaningful news.
It’s about the cans. so, this new stuff in the plant will be super automated, i wonder how many new employees there will be? or, how many they can do without once fully in place and running?
This is water as corperate welfare. This is not a win this is shameful.
I hope this makes drumpf uberly angry and jealous of Canada because he played himself by FAFO the hard way. w
You watch his uber narcissism explode when he hears about this 😂 Great move by Coca cola to show him exactly who is the boss 👌🙌🔥💯👏👏👏