One diplomatic blow-up. One aerospace warning sign. Same underlying problem: countries are starting to question whether the United States is still a reliable partner.
Another day, another broken relationship, another lost ally, another order lost to a foreign competitor, another disgusting display, another black eye for the USA. Just another typical day in the life of the orange pedophile felon Trump.
Fred, even more significant in the Italy spat, was her follow-up to his response to her previous follow-up (the "I/we don't beg" bit):
“As for my popularity, being associated with you has certainly not benefited it, nor is it influenced by our relationship. My level of popularity is not your concern. I recommend you focus on your own.”
The last sentence, to the spirit of your article, is the sledgehammer. I haven't every heard anyone in Europe express this degree of a trust problem, at least not openly and directly to him (they all try to either suck-up or at least try to placate him).
Very profound, coming from her. Meloni was likely his strongest ally in Europe in many ways (other than Mark Rutte, and Victor Orban, I guess).
That's the part that caught my attention too, Grant.
Political leaders disagree all the time.
What's unusual is when an ally decides to do it publicly and personally.
The line about focusing on his own popularity wasn't really about popularity.
It was about credibility.
When one of your strongest supporters starts creating distance instead of cover, that's a signal worth paying attention to.
Whether people agree with Meloni or not, the fact that she felt comfortable saying it out loud tells us something about how the relationship has changed.
That's what made this story bigger than a photo dispute.
Wow! Very well said Fred! Orange man keeps insulting country leaders yet still expecting them to kiss up to him, ewww! haha When we think he can't stoop any lower, he makes liars out of us!
There's that other footnote for the Canadian-made Airbus 220 (formerly Bombardier C-Series): some 200 or so were just sold to Air Asia a few months ago. Boeing lost out on those jets as well (that's why, when Trump went to China, they only looked at buying some 200 or so 737. Instead, they bought some 400 or so Airbus 220 and Airbus 230 jets). I don't have exact numbers in front of me. But again, USA isn't the default source of any aircraft anymore.
I think it started much earlier than that. Bush 2 invaded Iraq based on lies about WMD. Obama declined to follow through on guarantees of Ukraine's territorial integrity. Trump 1 tried to get Ukraine to surrender. Biden hemmed and hawed over support for them and eventually, effectively cilut them off from arms supply and has now been defeated by Israel and Iran and is threatening to withdraw from Europe. Why would any country in its right mind trust them?
Thank you Fred. I also noticed, re-reading that I left Trump II out of the list and assigned his errors to Biden, for which I apologize to President Biden.
All it takes is a look at Boeing’s QA, they & t***p45 killed 338 airline passengers, and still now can’t deliver on orders. Engineering schmengineering, profit taking to the end
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Another day, another broken relationship, another lost ally, another order lost to a foreign competitor, another disgusting display, another black eye for the USA. Just another typical day in the life of the orange pedophile felon Trump.
Whether people support Trump or oppose him, the trend is worth watching.
Countries don't cancel visits, diversify suppliers, and rethink alliances because of one comment.
They do it when confidence starts wearing thin over time.
Fred, even more significant in the Italy spat, was her follow-up to his response to her previous follow-up (the "I/we don't beg" bit):
“As for my popularity, being associated with you has certainly not benefited it, nor is it influenced by our relationship. My level of popularity is not your concern. I recommend you focus on your own.”
The last sentence, to the spirit of your article, is the sledgehammer. I haven't every heard anyone in Europe express this degree of a trust problem, at least not openly and directly to him (they all try to either suck-up or at least try to placate him).
Very profound, coming from her. Meloni was likely his strongest ally in Europe in many ways (other than Mark Rutte, and Victor Orban, I guess).
That's the part that caught my attention too, Grant.
Political leaders disagree all the time.
What's unusual is when an ally decides to do it publicly and personally.
The line about focusing on his own popularity wasn't really about popularity.
It was about credibility.
When one of your strongest supporters starts creating distance instead of cover, that's a signal worth paying attention to.
Whether people agree with Meloni or not, the fact that she felt comfortable saying it out loud tells us something about how the relationship has changed.
That's what made this story bigger than a photo dispute.
It looked a lot more like a trust dispute.
Wow! Very well said Fred! Orange man keeps insulting country leaders yet still expecting them to kiss up to him, ewww! haha When we think he can't stoop any lower, he makes liars out of us!
Thanks Patsy.
One thing history keeps teaching us is that respect is a two-way street.
Countries may tolerate being talked down to for a while, but eventually they start looking for other roads to travel.
I believe you are 100% right on that Fred!
Oh, while I think of it,
There's that other footnote for the Canadian-made Airbus 220 (formerly Bombardier C-Series): some 200 or so were just sold to Air Asia a few months ago. Boeing lost out on those jets as well (that's why, when Trump went to China, they only looked at buying some 200 or so 737. Instead, they bought some 400 or so Airbus 220 and Airbus 230 jets). I don't have exact numbers in front of me. But again, USA isn't the default source of any aircraft anymore.
Exactly, Grant.
The A220 is a great Canadian example of the broader shift.
The real story isn't that Boeing loses a few orders.
It's that America is no longer the default choice it once was.
More buyers are comparing options instead of signing automatically.
That's a very different marketplace.
I think it started much earlier than that. Bush 2 invaded Iraq based on lies about WMD. Obama declined to follow through on guarantees of Ukraine's territorial integrity. Trump 1 tried to get Ukraine to surrender. Biden hemmed and hawed over support for them and eventually, effectively cilut them off from arms supply and has now been defeated by Israel and Iran and is threatening to withdraw from Europe. Why would any country in its right mind trust them?
Fair point, Keith.
Most cracks in trust don't appear overnight.
They start as hairline fractures that build over years.
What we're seeing today may be less about one administration and more about a credibility account that's been steadily drawing down for a long time.
Thank you Fred. I also noticed, re-reading that I left Trump II out of the list and assigned his errors to Biden, for which I apologize to President Biden.
Trumps the one that Begs at 3 am the rest of the time he Lies!
😂 The real headline may be that fewer allies seem willing to let those comments slide these days.
That's a change worth watching.
All it takes is a look at Boeing’s QA, they & t***p45 killed 338 airline passengers, and still now can’t deliver on orders. Engineering schmengineering, profit taking to the end
Aviation is one business where trust and quality aren't optional extras.
When confidence slips, customers start looking elsewhere.
Boeing is learning just how costly that can become.
“Starting” ?
TRUMP NEVER WON an election in the USA without CHEATING and STEALING like a RUSSIAN ASSET! VOTE LIKE YOU ARE MAD. Vote WOMEN, Vote BLACK, Vote LGBTQ+, Vote IMMIGRANT and Vote for our CHILDREN’S FUTURE! VOTE EPSTEIN RAPEPUBLIKKKANS OUT!!!